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ABM INDUSTRIES INC /DE/ (ABM)·Q1 2025 Earnings Summary

Executive Summary

  • Q1 FY25 delivered modest top-line growth and stable profitability: revenue rose 2.2% to $2.11B, adjusted EPS was $0.87 (vs. $0.86 LY), and adjusted EBITDA was $120.6M with a 5.9% margin, while GAAP EPS was $0.69 (vs. $0.70 LY) .
  • Management raised the lower end of FY25 adjusted EPS guidance to $3.65–$3.80 (from $3.60–$3.80) and maintained adjusted EBITDA margin at 6.3%–6.5%; interest expense guidance increased to $80–$84M (from $76–$80M) .
  • Segment mix was favorable: Technical Solutions revenue +22% and Aviation +8% offset slight declines in B&I and M&D; Education grew 2%; ATS strength was driven by microgrids and a $490M backlog cited on the call .
  • Free cash flow was temporarily negative ($123M) due to ERP-related invoicing reviews in B&I and M&D, with management expecting collections normalization and catching up during the year .
  • Potential stock catalysts: guidance raise (lower end), ATS momentum/backlog, Aviation new wins, and ERP benefits as cash conversion normalizes; offsets include higher interest expense guide and lingering B&I/M&D softness early in the year .

What Went Well and What Went Wrong

  • What Went Well

    • ATS and Aviation led growth; ATS revenue +22% YoY on strong microgrids, Aviation +8% on healthy demand and new wins; Education +2% .
    • Adjusted EPS and adjusted EBITDA improved YoY: $0.87 vs. $0.86 and $120.6M vs. $116.7M; management lifted the lower end of FY25 EPS guidance .
    • Strategic execution: ERP rollout to B&I and M&D, ABM Connect data platform, and a refreshed brand; management expects efficiency and analytics benefits post-implementation .
  • What Went Wrong

    • Free cash flow was -$122.9M on ERP-driven invoicing delays; net cash from operations -$106.2M .
    • Slight revenue declines persisted in B&I (-1.0%) and M&D (-1.6%) as market headwinds and selective contract decisions weighed on growth .
    • Higher interest outlook: FY25 interest expense guidance increased by $4M to $80–$84M, which modestly tightens the P&L outlook despite stronger segments .

Financial Results

MetricQ1 FY24Q3 FY24Q4 FY24Q1 FY25
Revenue ($USD Billions)$2.070 $2.094 $2.177 $2.115
GAAP Diluted EPS ($)$0.70 $0.07 $(0.19) $0.69
Adjusted EPS ($)$0.86 $0.94 $0.90 $0.87
Adjusted EBITDA ($USD Millions)$116.7 $128.1 $128.0 $120.6
Adjusted EBITDA Margin (%)5.9% 6.4% 6.1% 5.9%
Net Income ($USD Millions)$44.7 $4.7 $(11.7) $43.6
Net Income Margin (%)2.2% 0.2% (0.5)% 2.1%

Segment performance (Q1 FY25 vs. Q1 FY24):

SegmentRevenue Q1 FY25 ($M)Revenue Q1 FY24 ($M)YoY %Operating Profit Q1 FY25 ($M)Operating Profit Q1 FY24 ($M)YoY %
Business & Industry1,022.9 1,033.1 (1.0)% 79.4 79.6 (0.3)%
Manufacturing & Distribution394.3 400.9 (1.6)% 39.4 41.3 (4.8)%
Aviation270.1 249.5 8.2% 12.2 9.7 25.9%
Education225.3 220.1 2.4% 14.0 12.7 9.9%
Technical Solutions202.3 165.9 21.9% 16.6 6.6 NM

KPIs and balance sheet/cash flow:

KPIQ1 FY25
Free Cash Flow ($M)$(122.9) (ERP-related invoicing delay)
Net Cash from Ops ($M)$(106.2)
Total Indebtedness ($M)$1,590.2 (incl. $29.7M LOC); leverage 2.9x
Liquidity ($M)$296.9 (cash $59.0M)
Share Repurchase0.4M shares for $21.3M at $51.23 avg
Dividend$0.265 declared; 236th consecutive
Credit FacilityUpsized/extended to $2.2B, revolver $1.6B + $600M term loan thru 2030
ATS Backlog~$490M cited on call

Estimates vs. actuals:

  • S&P Global consensus for Q1 FY25 (revenue/EPS) was unavailable at time of analysis due to SPGI rate limits; we could not determine beat/miss vs. consensus. Values retrieved from S&P Global were unavailable at run time.*

Guidance Changes

MetricPeriodPrevious GuidanceCurrent GuidanceChange
Adjusted EPSFY2025$3.60–$3.80 $3.65–$3.80 Raised lower end
Adjusted EBITDA MarginFY20256.3%–6.5% 6.3%–6.5% Maintained
Interest ExpenseFY2025$76–$80M $80–$84M Raised
Tax Rate (ex-discrete)FY202529%–30% 29%–30% Maintained
Quarterly DividendOngoing$0.265 (raised Dec-24) $0.265 declared for May 5, 2025 Maintained

Earnings Call Themes & Trends

TopicQ3 FY24 (Prev-2)Q4 FY24 (Prev-1)Q1 FY25 (Current)Trend
ATS/MicrogridsATS +25% YoY; microgrids drove growth; outlook raised for FY24 adj EPS ATS +35% YoY; large RavenVolt earnout accrual reflects strength ATS +22% YoY; ~$490M backlog; strong 2025 expected Improving momentum
Aviation demand+13% YoY revenue; robust markets +11% YoY revenue; continued wins +8% YoY; record year expected; new DFW and Southeast hub awards Strong/steady
B&I/CRE backdropResilient despite office softness Positioning for 2025 inflection to growth 24% sequential uptick in office leasing; expect H2 growth Improving
ERP/ELEVATE techEfficiency tools cited Productivity tool benefits in H2 ERP rolled to B&I and M&D; near-term cash drag; long-term cost/analytics benefits Implementation advancing
Free cash flow cadenceFCF $64.1M in Q3 FCF $15.5M in Q4 FCF $(122.9)M on ERP transition; collections to normalize in-year Temporarily down; recovery expected
Interest expenseFY25 guide $76–$80M FY25 guide lifted to $80–$84M Higher

Management Commentary

  • “We posted 2% organic revenue growth and delivered adjusted EPS of $0.87… we are raising the lower end of our full year adjusted EPS guidance and now see adjusted EPS between $3.65 and $3.80.” — Scott Salmirs, CEO .
  • “We successfully launched our cloud-based ERP system in the first quarter for B&I and M&D… temporary delays in cash flow… expect improvement next quarter and full normalization in the second half… drive significant cost efficiencies… and provide real-time analytics and reporting.” — Scott Salmirs .
  • “ABM Connect… consolidates facility, financial, equipment, IoT and service data to provide actionable insights… streamlining airport operations… ensuring compliance… optimizing asset performance with predictive maintenance.” — Scott Salmirs .
  • “Adjusted EBITDA increased 3% to $120.6 million… ATS operating margin increased 420 bps to 8.2%… supported by $490 million of backlog.” — Earl Ellis, CFO .
  • “We anticipate Q2 will have a significant increase in cash flow versus Q1… and in the back half we’ll catch up… to deliver full-year cash flows.” — Earl Ellis (ERP collections) .

Q&A Highlights

  • B&I and office leasing context: Management highlighted a 24% sequential uptick in high-quality office leasing in Q4 CY24 and improving net absorption, supporting an H2 FY25 growth view in B&I .
  • Federal exposure: Minimal risk; limited exposure mainly in mission-critical with special clearance; not in broad stationary engineering across federal buildings .
  • Labor costs and supply: ~50% union labor with 3–4% increases locked for 3+ years; non-union wage increases largely passed through to clients; enhanced TA systems reduced time-to-hire .
  • ERP cash flow mechanics: Manual invoice QC in Q1 delayed billings; collections expected to pick up in Q2 and normalize for full-year FCF delivery .
  • ATS cadence: Microgrids strong; bundled energy solutions still tied to rates, showing incremental pickup; outlook strengthens as rates ease .
  • M&D: Lapped major client rebalancing; passed on a ~$50M low-margin opportunity; expect mid-single-digit organic growth in H2 as new wins activate .
  • Aviation: Scope largely resilient to small changes in traveler volumes; bookings and pipeline remain strong despite airline commentary .

Estimates Context

  • S&P Global consensus for Q1 FY25 EPS and revenue was not retrievable at run time due to SPGI rate limits, so we cannot assess beat/miss versus Street for the quarter. Values retrieved from S&P Global were unavailable at run time.*
  • FY25 framework changes to consider for models: raised lower end of adjusted EPS ($3.65–$3.80), unchanged adjusted EBITDA margin (6.3%–6.5%), and higher interest expense ($80–$84M) .

Key Takeaways for Investors

  • Mix tailwinds intact: ATS (microgrids, data centers) and Aviation continue to outgrow the portfolio, underpinning EPS resilience even as B&I/M&D lag early in the year .
  • Guidance de-risked at the low end: Raising the floor of FY25 EPS while holding margin targets signals confidence in H2 trajectory across B&I and M&D .
  • Watch cash conversion: ERP-driven invoicing delays pressured Q1 FCF; management expects sequential improvement in Q2 and normalization in H2—key for valuation and buyback flexibility .
  • Interest headwind modest but real: Higher interest expense guide partially offsets operating momentum; monitor balance sheet and rate sensitivity .
  • Aviation pipeline broadening: New airport and airline contracts and ABM Connect differentiation support sustained growth and margin improvement .
  • CRE inflection in sight: Upticks in leasing and net absorption in Class A office support B&I stabilization and potential H2 growth .
  • Selectivity remains a positive: Passing on low-margin deals bolsters long-run returns and supports steady margin execution .

Sources: ABM Q1 FY25 8-K and press release, earnings call transcript, and prior quarter press releases and 8-Ks .

Footnote: *SPGI/Capital IQ consensus unavailable at run time due to rate limits; estimates context will be updated when accessible. Values retrieved from S&P Global.